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Howard Salmon's avatar

I really enjoyed this, Pe.

I have always had a conflicted relationship with Stock, Aitken & Waterman. On one level, they were a production juggernaut, and there were times when the machine became almost too visible: the sound, the structure, the commercial precision, the sense that everything had been engineered for maximum impact.

But that is also why it worked.

As much as part of me wanted to resist it, I could never fully dismiss SAW, because the records did exactly what they were built to do. They moved. They locked in. They understood the dancefloor with a clarity that a lot of more “serious” music never managed. Even when the formula was obvious, the physical effect was undeniable.

For me, Bananarama were right at the top of that list. “Venus” was everywhere, but it never felt accidental. It had that strange late-80s force where underground club energy, commercial pop, camp, image, and pure momentum all crashed into each other and somehow became irresistible.

What I really appreciated here is the reminder that Bananarama did not simply appear as polished pop product. There was post-punk, DIY culture, club culture, and a much stranger route into the mainstream behind them. That makes “Venus” much more interesting than just a massive hit single. It becomes one of those records where you can actually hear pop changing shape.

Great piece, and a really sharp way of dealing with SAW without either dismissing them or pretending the complications are not there.

Steve Goldberg's avatar

As always, a great essay and I learned so much! I had no idea who SAW was (and I didn't say that just to include a great palindrome). But I know so much of their work. I was never really aware of producers or production teams back then. I was aware of Bananarama, though. And from their early days. Well, maybe not super early. I feel like it was their teaming with Fun Boy Three that made me love them first (though I can't recall if I'd heard their own stuff before the FB3 collab). "Really Saying Something" and "It Ain't What You Do..." were all over KROQ, the new wave station in southern California. I just played them right now and love this Top of the Pops video.

https://youtu.be/vfbR__bcuKY?si=Ur88JDaGzot7tXk8

Of course, I knew the hits - Venus and Cruel Summer and Shy Boy. They seemed like they were having fun and also poking fun at the coordinated dance step/girl group tropes.

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